Hello. At this point in time it is difficult to get the better of the Platinum programs. Even without the ripper the RF version was better. The nag windows were gone, the browse function worked and there was less trouble from the Patin Couffin driver. Another fault I found with the program was not recording some of the Disney movies. It had to be the program. New discs and other programs would record them. I still use the program quite a bit. Just use something else for the Disneys. Had they included the ripper, the RF would have been the upgrade to improve the 4.0.3.8. It took care of the problems, but no ripper.'Brobear' I was an earth-rim walker, a lurker at the threshold of the abyss. - Grendel -